They say Australians are very laidback and relaxed. That is true. I had a landlord who was really very laidback and had a barbecue every night, even when it rained. When I want to Australia for my studies, I thought I wanted to go and live there. Or America. But once I was there I met people from Malaysia, Thailand and China. That has given me an interest in Asia. Malaysia, for example, is well ahead when it comes to knowledge, universities and research facilities. At Van Hall Larenstein we learn a lot about European food, but the food in China is completely different. The idea of working there appeals to me. A different type of food requires different technologies, including food technologies. Australia is not known for its culinary flair. But Adelaide does have a traditional dish. Which is appalling! It is a pea soup with a sort of pie in it called a ‘floater'. The pie is put in the soup upside down and served after five minutes. So then you have a totally soggy pie, really dreadful. And then they serve it with ketchup!'